This is the third post in a series describing my experience going on the legal academic job market in 2022 and some pieces of advice I have for new applicants--particularly those like me without a traditional background. My first post discussed the initial leap into a fellowship or visiting position, and my second discussed the Faculty Appointments Register (FAR) process and materials. This post addresses the initial interview phase of the process.
Initial Interviews: The Basics
It's my understanding that back in the day, applicants and law school representatives from around the country would convene in a hotel in Washington DC (which I believe has now been demolished?) for several days. There, they would undergo a hectic series of screening interviews with the hope they'd make a good enough impression to get invited for a callback interview at a later date.
That's not how things work today. Once the FAR materials and direct applications are out, it's up to the schools to reach out and request screening interviews. In my experience, these were all done virtually via Zoom (or maybe Microsoft Teams in one or two cases). I received initial interview invites from a mix of schools to which I'd sent direct applications, and others who'd found my materials in the FAR distribution. Several schools to which I hadn't applied invited me to submit an application, after which they would often extend an interview invite as well. As I mentioned in my last post, the most substantive parts of these application concerned documents like research agendas, teaching philosophies, and DEI statements, most of which ought to be completed before the first FAR distribution.
One benefit of remote initial interviews is the flexible scheduling. For me, I was able to schedule interviews into my day before or after class, and even when I was laid low by COVID-19 in mid-September, I was still able to do interviews from home (although I may not have given my best performance in those instances). Some of these interviews were scheduled on the weekend, which made them even less of a conflict with my classes, meetings, and other work.
But a major downside of remote screening interviews is that they take place over a long time period which, in turn, leads to schools sometimes pursuing drastically different hiring schedules which may complicate the timing of offers and acceptances down the road. I suspect that this was still an issue with the old system, as schools were left to their own devices in scheduling callbacks. But when you're doing a screening interview for one school a day or two after a callback at another school, you know that all semblances of scheduling uniformity have gone out the window. In the end, things still worked out, as I found that all of my offers synched up at around the same time. But keep this in mind as you go through the process and see if you can schedule interviews--especially callback interviews--closer together in light of the scheduling disparities that will arise.
I've also heard a few anecdotes that remote screening interviews have led some schools to hold far more initial interviews than they may have normally done otherwise. The flexible scheduling options, plus the fact that committee members need not all be in the same place, makes it easier for the committee to schedule dozens of screening interviews. This, in turn, gives them more applicants to choose from at the callback stage. Some downsides of this, however, include a potential devaluing of the screening interview itself (due to the sheer volume of interviews a school may hold), as well as a more difficult process for selecting callback applicants. Additionally, a high volume of initial interviews may make the process less predictable for applicants, as there's a lower probability of securing a callback when an applicant is one of forty interviewees rather than one of twenty.
My earliest screening interviews began in early/mid September, and went on through at least late October or early November (I've switched computer systems since moving to a new school, and I don't have my precise calendar records available). I heard anecdotes, however, of screening interviews starting as early as August.
As for the interviews themselves, they tended to last for 20-30 minutes. Those limits were fairly strict, as I was one of numerous candidates being interviewed in succession, and falling behind with one person risked cascading delays for other applicants. The setup of the interviews varied. Most typically, everyone on the Zoom call was in a separate location--often their own office. I liked this format because I could better see who was speaking and note questions and points in case I got invited to a callback and wanted to elaborate on specific discussions from the interview. Sometimes, though, the entire hiring committee would be in a single conference room, which could make it difficult to see who was saying what, particularly with the larger committees.
I dressed in a suit for each of these interviews (although I may have been wearing jeans for some of my weekend / at-home-COVID interviews). While the interviews were on Zoom, I've seen so many instances of fashion flubs during remote court proceedings that I tend to dress up all the way even when the interview is remote. The usual Zoom disclaimers apply: make sure you don't have anything odd in your background, try to look at your camera as much as possible, and remain upbeat and dynamic, since it's easy to lose energy or focus when you aren't in the room with the same person.
Common Questions in Screening Interviews
A hiring committee will likely conduct a large number of screening interviews in the earlier stages of the hiring process. The purpose of these interviews is to get a feel for each candidate, learn more about their motivations, and to parse out questions about their background, scholarship, and experience that may not be immediately discernable from their application materials. Because these interviews are often brief (usually between twenty and thirty minutes), and because committees tend to interview a large number of candidates, questions tend to be standardized. Below, I've listed common questions I got during the screening process, along with suggestions on how to go about answering them.
As a caveat: this is primarily informed by my own experience, and there's a possibility (indeed, a likelihood) that different approaches will work for you. Each applicant's motivations, experiences, and plans are unique. Additionally, there's a possibility that some of my answers were stinkers, and something else about me (my publications, my practical experience, or my haircut) won the day.
Why are you interested in becoming a law professor?
Applicants who've spent the bulk of their legal career on a path to academia will likely have no difficulty answering this question. But those who have spent more time practicing, and for whom a turn to academia represents a noteworthy shift in career, this may be a response where you can stand out. In my interviews, I noted my positive experiences in practice, but emphasized that academia had always been on my mind. Once I found enough balance to begin writing again in earnest, the thrill of delving into deeper puzzles, entering a higher-level scholarly conversation, and exploring areas of law of my choosing was simply too much to ignore. Being a law professor is one of the best jobs in the world, and you just need to translate this sentiment into something that sounds coherent and convincing.
Describe your research agenda.
Developing a solid, focused, and informative response to this question is worthwhile because it is something you can translate into a contextual introduction to a job talk presentation at later stages. In answering this question, I mixed examples of recent or ongoing projects with broader themes, often stating a broad issue I was exploring and backing it up with examples of an article or two I had written or planned to write to get to the heart of the issue. I think it's worth avoiding a laundry list of past and future articles, both because such an approach may cause your answer to become overly long, and because including abstraction suggests and open-endedness to your approach that promises indefinite possibilities.
Describe your approach to teaching.
I mentioned this in prior posts, but questions like these were challenging for me since I'd barely begun teaching classes before my first few screening interviews. I relied on examples from my minimal teaching experience so far, but the balance of my responses often addressed my goals for teaching, skills I planned to develop, and examples of good teaching that I sought to emulate. Again, a book like What the Best Law Teachers Do is quite helpful as it won't only provide endless suggestions to improve your own teaching, but provide you with examples of great teaching that you can seek to emulate and mention when asked.
Why [Our Location]?
This question may come up, especially if the applicant will be needing to make a long-distance move if they take the job. More often than not, the "real" answer is: "Because I'm willing to move wherever I need to go if it means a job," but avoid the temptation to say so! If there's something positive you can say about the location: it brings you closer to family or friends, you used to live there and so it's familiar territory, you currently live there and you've grown to like it--these are good answers. Another way of responding is to compare the new location's advantages to your present location. I ended up with a job in Texas--a state I'd never before visited. But my school is located in San Antonio and, when compared with Boise, Idaho, it's a lot bigger and a lot easier to travel to and from. I emphasized that this appealed to me, and even more so to my spouse, who is a professional cellist and therefore travels quite frequently.
Why [Our School]?
This is more of a catch-all version of some of the preceding questions, so strategies for those answers will come in handy here. If you can tie the school's location into your answer, this may be a good approach. But you should also consider aspects of the school that make it distinctive--preferably with regard to your teaching interests. Highlight the work of faculty in your areas of interest as something that appeals to you. If the law school has departments or has established centers in a particular area that intersects with your scholarship, bring that up.
Questions to Ask the Interviewers
You may not always get a chance to ask your own questions of the interviewers because of the short time screening interviews take. But in my experience, I was given the opportunity to ask at least one or two questions of the interviewers in my screening interviews. To an extent, make sure you have some decent questions prepared so you aren't caught by surprise. Try to keep them somewhat interesting to avoid appearing uninterested. But also make sure you ask questions that will give you information you need, such as the professional vibe of the faculty, teaching dynamics, and institutional priorities.
The questions I'd ask were sometimes varied. A frequent one for me was to ask of those interviewers who'd previously taught at other schools what made this school stand out to them. This gave me a range of answers which tended to be useful. Answers that delved into specifics gave me more of an impression that the school had a distinct identity and that faculty were more invested and engaged. Answers that were overly generic led me to flag this as something to follow up with should the hiring process continue.
Another question I asked concerned the types of support the school provided to those starting off as teachers and scholars. Schools may have different approaches to supporting their faculty (e.g., differing budgets, varied flexibility for requests beyond what is typically provided, etc.) and the level of detail I'd get in response to these questions gave me insight into how the school prioritized developing faculty scholarship. The same held true for my questions about teaching support. While schools often have systems in place for supporting research and providing grants, some don't have much in the way of supervision or review of classroom teaching. Those that do stood out to me, particularly those with well-developed, detailed plans of observation and feedback designed to help professors become better teachers.
Next Steps?
If you have the chance, see if you can ask the interviewers for any details they can give you about their timeline. Some hiring committees will have little in the way of details, as the process may sometimes involve interim deliberations and decisions which may lead to an unpredictable schedule. But others will have fairly fixed timelines and may be able to tell you when to expect notification about a callback.
As for the callback interview, that will be the subject of the next post. But know for now that timing on callback notifications can vary widely depending on internal scheduling and applicant availability. I received notification of some callbacks shortly after my screening interview--I think the earliest notification came within a week. Most were within a few weeks. On the other end, I received an inquiry if I was still interested in pursuing a callback interview a couple months after my screening interview, at which point I'd already accepted an offer from a separate school.
Don't expect that you'll hear from every school with which you interview. Several notified me once their process had closed. But many simply never got back to me one way or the other. This is, I suspect, a likely result of schools holding numerous screening interviews now that the process is remote. To those reading who happen to be on hiring committees, an email to all applicants once the process has closed would be appreciated.
General Resources
If you are looking for the book-length version of the advice in theses posts, Yale Law School has an extensive guide for graduates seeking to enter the job market. For the person at the early stages of the process, page 91 of the guide is the beginning of a list of fellowships.Paul Caron publishes a yearly list of visiting assistant professorship and fellowship programs at law schools. I suspect that because many of these are ongoing programs rather than ad-hoc postings to fill teaching slots, they will likely provide more extensive opportunities for mentorship.
At PrawfsBlawg, Jessica Erickson has a helpful post breaking down the different types of fellowship and visiting assistant professorships. My first post in this series went into some detail regarding the different types of fellowships and the mentorship and support one might expect at each one. Erickson's post goes into far more detail and includes advice for applicants in how they might determine how a job posting fits into each fellowship category. PrawfsBlawg also has a category of blog post devoted to visiting positions and fellowships, including interviews with those in charge of some of these programs, which may be worth scrolling through.
While it's a bit of an older resource, Eric Goldman has this post on advice for those entering the teaching market. Even though he wrote it in 2005, much of the advice remains timeless, including his recommendation to practice a job talk before "friendly law professors" before doing it live, asking multiple professors for advice throughout the process, and noting the role luck plays in landing a job.
Orin Kerr's podcast/video series, The Legal Academy, is a collection of interviews with various legal scholars with a consistent focus on the nature of legal academia and strategies for those seeking to enter academia. I especially recommend his interviews with Emma Kaufman and Sarah Lawsky.
The AALS--especially their information regarding the Faculty Appointments Register (FAR), which you will need to fill out if you are seriously considering going on the market. This is a centralized set of one-page summaries of applicants that gets sent out to all member schools. By registering and inputting your information, your information will be included in this distribution. I'll go into more detail on the process in a dedicated post, but make sure to register before the first distribution deadline (this year: August 11, 2023).
Brian Leiter provides great advice for people on the market in various places. At his Law School Reports Blog, his string of "Advice for Academic Job Seekers" posts are worth checking out--particularly his early 2023 post on considering and negotiating tenure-track job offers. At his Leiter Reports blog, he provides detailed advice for those considering joint JD/PhD programs--specifically for those interested in pursuing a PhD in philosophy.
I'm happy to chat with anyone interested in entering legal academia--especially those who may not be typical candidates. You can find my contact information on my faculty page.
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